Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society organises a number of well attended talks, events and outings each year.  In 2017 our Summer Outing was to Dolanog and Pontrobert and featured sites associated with famous Welsh hymnwriter Ann Griffiths.  We visited the Ann Griffiths Memorial Chapel, Dolanog and then the John Hughes Chapel, Pontrobert and were entertained and informed in equal measure by our hosts at both venues.  This was preceded by a buffet at the Lake Vyrnwy Hotel.  In 2018 we held a joint event with the Llanfyllin Dolydd Workhouse, with talks on local families given by both organisations.  A delicious meal was provided by the Dolydd, followed by a guided tour and a viewing of the community-made film about the workhouse and its history.

 

 

An important part of the Society's work is publishing full transcripts of the memorial inscriptions at every historical parish church and chapel in Montgomeryshire. In 2014 we published the memorial inscriptions for the parish church and chapels of Llanwddyn, thus completing the part of the Society’s work programme dealing with chapels and churches' burial grounds. The task of gathering and transcribing was carried out by a dedicated team of volunteers over a period of many years. They meticulously transcribed gravestones, a large percentage of which are badly eroded or invisible to the naked eye having disappeared under ground as nature takes over. The final stages of the MI programme have involved the modern cemeteries, e.g. the large municipal cemeteries at Newtown, Llanidloes, Machynlleth and Welshpool.  We now hold a full transcript of every known memorial in the county.

 

Pictured: Hold that Camera Straight! A typical scene of the team at work. 

A Montgomeryshire Miscellany

This page was set up to provide a home for all sorts of bits and bobs that might be of general interest. Click on the links to have a look.  Please note that any of the chapels depicted may have closed and been converted into a private residence.

The Welsh Language in Montgomeryshire

Broadly speaking, the further north and west in the county you go, the more likely you are to encounter the Welsh language.  A person studying a family in the east of Montgomeryshire may never need to understand a word of Welsh.  On the other hand, a person with ancestors in the west of the county, especially nonconformist ancestors, is likely to come across the language at a fairly early stage.

Most written documents, even those produced by Welsh speakers, tend to be in English, which has for centuries been the language in Wales of officialdom.  Even the registers of Welsh speaking chapels are likely to fall into this category.

The place where you are most likely to come across the Welsh language is in memorial inscriptions in church and chapel yards.  In a country parish churchyard in the north and west of the county, between two thirds and three quarters of inscriptions are likely to be in Welsh.  Sometimes the "official" details of name, age and date of death are in English, whilst the verse - the personal valedictory - is in Welsh. Below is a model gravestone with variations on the standard expressions used and an English translation.

 

Er Cof Am / Er Serchus Gof Am / Er Serchus Goffadwriaeth Am

In Memory Of / In Loving Memory Of / In Loving Remembrance Of

John Jones, Bronheulog, yn y Plwyf Hwn

John Jones, of Bronheulog in this Parish

Yr Hwn a Fu Farw / Yr Hwn a Ymadawodd ar Bywyd Hwn / Yr Hwn a Hunodd

Who Died / Who Departed this Life / Who Fell Asleep

Chwefror 12fed, 1900, Yn 70 Mlwydd Oed.

February 12th, 1900, Aged 70 Years.

Hefyd Am Mary

Also of Mary

Gwraig i'r Dywededig John Jones

Wife of the Said John Jones

Yr Hon a Fu Farw

Who Died

Gorphenaf y 27ain 1910

July the 27th 1910

Yn 75 Mlwydd Oed.

Aged 75 Years.

Coffadwriaeth y Cyfiawn Sydd Fendigedig.

The Memory of the Just is Blessed.

MONTGOMERYSHIRE AND ITS BORDERS: PARISHES AND CHAPELRIES

SHOWING MONTGOMERYSHIRE GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY PARISH CODES

Code

Parish

Code

Parish

Code

Parish

Abh

Aberhafesp

Ldm

Llandinam

Mac

Machynlleth

Alb

Alberbury

Ldn

Llandrinio

Mai

Mainstone

Ber

Berriew

Ldo

Llandysilio

Mal

Mallwyd

Bts

Bettws Cedewain

Lds

Llandyssil

Man

Manafon

But

Buttington

Ler

Llanerfyl

Mfd

Meifod

Bwc

Bwlch-y-cibau

Lfc

Llanfair Caereinion

Mic

Middleton-in-Chirbury

Car

Carno

Lfe

Llanfechain

Mid

Middletown

Cem

Cemmaes

Lfh

Llanfihangel-yng-Ngwynfa

Moc

Mochdre

Chb

Chirbury

Lfn

Llanfyllin

Mtg

Montgomery

Ccr

Castle Caereinion

Lga

Llangadfan

New

Newtown

Chu

Churchstoke

Lgg

Llangurig

Png

Penegoes

Cor

Corris

Lgn

Llangyniew

Pnn

Pennant

Crg

Criggion

Lgy

Llangynog

Pnr

Penrhos

Dar

Darowen

Lid

Llanidloes

Pns

Penstrowed

Dlg

Dolanog

Llg

Llanllugan

Ptr

Pontrobert

Dfr

Dolfor

Llw

Llanllwchaiarn

Pqy

Pool Quay

Dyl

Dylife

Lmw

Llanmerewig

Sar

Sarn

Fdn

Forden

Lrh

Llanrhaiadr-ym-Mochnant

Snd

Snead

Gbo

Garthbeibio

Lsf

Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain

Tfg

Trefeglwys

Gls

Guilsfield

Lwd

Llanwddyn

Trg

Tregynon

Hir

Hirnant

Lwg

Llanwnog

Trl

Trelystan

Hys

Hyssington

Lwr

Llanwrin

Wpl

Welshpool

Ker

Kerry

Lyn

Llanwyddelan

Wor

Worthen

Lei

Leighton

Lym

Llanymynech

 

 

Lbm

Llanbrynmair

Lyd

Lydham

 

 

 

The 1664-5 Hearth Tax in Montgomeryshire

The hearth tax was levied between 1662 and 1689 but most surviving records date from 1662 to 1666 and 1669 to 1674.  The basic principle was to tax householders, other than the poor, for each hearth they owned.  In principle, therefore, the more hearths you owned, the more you paid.  The surviving hearth tax returns include lists of chargeable and not chargeable householders with a note in each case of the number of hearths each possessed.  The returns therefore have some of the characteristics of a census and, in national terms, are one of the nearest things to one before the 19th century.


Montgomeryshire has returns for 1662 and 1664-5 or thereabouts, arranged by hundred and township.  The 1664-5 returns were transcribed by a member of the Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society and have been uploaded gradually onto this page over the last few years.  This project is now complete.


The attached returns are completely unchecked but you are welcome to download them for personal use.  Click on the Hundred names for the pdfs.  The material is copyright and no part of it may be reproduced in any form without the prior permission, in writing, of the Society.  The file for Llanidloes Hundred looks smaller than it should be - returns may be missing from the original or mixed up in the transcripts.  Please note also that, although the files indicate a date of 1671, this tax is thought to date to 1664/5.


A transcript and index of the 1664-5 tax, which involved checking the original at the National Archives, Kew, west London, and the Leonard Owen transcript of this tax, were published in 2008 in the MGS Montgomeryshire Records Miscellaneous series.  Please see the Publications page on this website.

 

Cawrse and Deuddwr Hundreds were uploaded first.
Cyfeiliog Hundred added 26 December 2002.
Llanfyllin Hundred added 12 December 2003.
Llanidloes Hundred added 31 January 2004.
Mathrafal Hundred added 22 September 2004.
Montgomery Hundred added 14 August 2006.
Newtown Hundred added 19 August 2006.
Poole Hundred added 23 August 2006.

 

MONTGOMERYSHIRE GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY PUBLICATIONS

Since 1995 the Society has published a considerable amount of relevant material.  The current total is approximately 410 booklets, 3 CDs and 72 issues of our journal Record.  For details please see the linked pdfs.

We have produced a complete series of published memorial inscriptions of the ancient churches and chapels of Montgomeryshire, the vast majority of which are exclusive to this Society.

Please bear in mind that some items may be out of print and newer editions of some items may have appeared than those listed.

For a pdf of our publications by alphabetical order of parish click here.

For a pdf listing the main items in back numbers of our journal Record click here.

Each booklet is normally indexed individually.

HOW TO ORDER

Please ensure that the full reference is given in ordering, e.g. MR/MI/16.

When ordering, the appropriate postage & packing charge should be added as follows:

      1 booklet     2 or more booklets
UK     £1.50     £1 per booklet
Europe     £3     £2.50 per booklet
Worldwide     £4.50     £3 per booklet


These publications may be ordered from:
Mrs Heather Lawton,
Minyrafon,
Berriew,
Welshpool,
Powys,
SY21 8PJ
 
Payment must be made in sterling and cheques made payable to Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society.

Alternatively, payment may be made for most of these publications by credit card via the Genfair website.  See the "Links" page.

For MGS records online, please go to the FindMyPast website.  Again, see the "Links" page.

 Links  
 Some other Sites of Interest  
   
http://www.genfair.co.uk Online bookshop, where you can pay for our European and Overseas membership subscriptions and publications by credit card.
   
http://www.findmypast.co.uk Offers "pay per view" services including MGS material.
   
http://www.llgc.org.uk/catalogue The National Library of Wales catalogue.  Its collection of printed books and manuscripts is the most important in Wales.  Numerous items of family history interest (deeds, rentals, etc).
   
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue The National Archives, London.  Its catalogue of over 11 million items, now called Discovery, is searchable online.  Probably used most by family historians for 1st World War and other service records (see classes WO/97, WO/363 and WO/364), but an essential source for much else.
   
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk The North Wales BMD website containing indexes of births, marriages and deaths from 1837 to about 1950.  MGS is a participating society.  Montgomeryshire section now complete.  Searchable free online.
   
http://explore.bl.uk The British Library printed books catalogue.  A huge online catalogue.  The BL is important for early Welsh books, journals and manuscripts, for which it was the principal repository prior to the establishment of the National Library of Wales in 1907.
   
http://searcharchives.bl.uk The British Library manuscripts catalogue.
   
http://unicat.bangor.ac.uk Bangor University Library.  Often overlooked, but important for Welsh material.
   
http://www.cwgc.org The Commonwealth War Graves commission.  Its huge database of war graves, including those of Welsh service personnel, is searchable online.
   
http://www.powyslandclub.co.uk The Powysland Club, Montgomeryshire's county historical society (in fact its coverage is much wider) and the oldest such society in Wales.  Responsible in particular for its journal since 1867 the Montgomeryshire Collections, "for the collecting and printing, for the use of its members, of the historical, ecclesiastical, genealogical, topographical, and literary remains of Montgomeryshire".
   
http://www.montsoc.org.uk Site dedicated to the Montgomeryshire Society, founded in 1927 as a social and cultural society for Montgomeryshire people. Main focus is on Montgomeryshire "expats" in London.
   
http://archives.powys.gov.uk The Powys County Record Office.
   
https://www.denbighshire.gov.uk/en/resident/libraries-and-archives/denbighshire-archives/denbighshire-archives.aspx The Denbighshire County Record Office.
   
http://www.fhswales.org.uk The Association of Family History Societies of Wales
   
http://www.churchinwales.org.uk The Church in Wales website.  Provides details of all current churches in the archbishopric.
   
http://www.rcahmw.gov.uk The Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales, which has a national role in the management of the archaeological, built and maritime heritage of Wales.

 

About Us

The Society is a member of the Federation of Family History Societies and the Association of Family History Societies of Wales.

Its main aim is to help members trace their Montgomeryshire family histories. It also helps members with family connections in Shropshire, Cardiganshire, Denbighshire, Merionethshire and Radnorshire.

We help by:

offering advice to members researching their family history;
circulating details of help wanted by members in our journal the Record;
providing access to the Society's library;
keeping members' interests indexes (click here for a list of names members have been, or are currently researching);
publishing local records of family history interest;
transcribing and recording new material for members' benefit such as:
memorial inscriptions from parish churchyards and chapels;
parish and chapel registers - baptisms, marriages and burials;
and census returns.

Please note that in addition to having published virtually all Montgomeryshire memorial inscriptions and parish registers, the society has for some time had a manorial documents project underway, the resulting information from which is available from no other source. This now extends to well over 100,000 records.

In addition, members have:
free issue of our journal the Record which appears twice a year (besides members' interests, this contains articles, transcripts and a host of other information of benefit to people with interests in Montgomeryshire and its borders);
a series of talks on topics relating to Montgomeryshire genealogy (these are normally held in Newtown on Saturdays from September to November and from February to April - please see the Programme page);
A Summer Outing, occasional meetings in other towns and villages in the county and regular outings to transcribe memorial inscriptions in the summer months;

For the 2019 membership year, the subscription rates are:
£10 per year individual membership;
£11 per year family membership (two members at the same address in the UK);
£18 per year European membership (outside the United Kingdom but inside the European Union or EFTA);
£20 per year overseas membership (outside the United Kingdom, European Union and EFTA).

If you are interested in becoming a member of the Society, you can download an application form and post it to the membership officer, together with your subscription.  Please click on the "Applications and Renewals" page link.

European and Overseas membership subscriptions may be paid via our pages on the Genfair website, where you can join and renew online.  Please see the "Links" page for a link to Genfair.  Society publications may also be ordered and paid for online via Genfair.

SOCIETY RESEARCH RESOURCES IN NEWTOWN LIBRARY

The Society maintains research resources in Newtown Library. These consist of pedigrees and information supplied by members over the years.  They are held in the storeroom and are available to be viewed by members on request without charge.  Anybody wishing to enquire about the current holdings or to view items in the Society's collection should contact our Librarian Phillip Evans (see Officers of the Society page), if posible at least two weeks before the intended date of the visit.

 

 

 

MONTGOMERYSHIRE GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY PROGRAMME

 
  2019 PROGRAMME  
  MEETINGS and EVENTS  

Saturday 2 Feb 2019

2.30 pm

 

 

Speaker: Nia Griffiths & Nick Venti


Subject: Trefeglwys in the First World War

 

 

Northside Community Centre, Newtown

Saturday 2 March 2019

10.30 am to 12.30pm

 

Open Morning & Family History Research session

 

 

Newtown Library
     

Saturday 6 April 2019

2.30 pm

Speaker: Ms Jennifer Strawbridge
 

Subject: Genealogist's Tales

Northside Community Centre, Newtown

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Services (for members only)

All postal correspondence must be accompanied by a stamped self-addressed envelope or 2 international reply coupons (IRCs).

Library searches

Searches may be made for members in the Society's library.  The library (in addition to well over 300 volumes of our publications and other genealogical publications) includes unpublished memorial inscriptions, records of baptism and marriage, census returns etc.  There is no charge to members for this service.

Apply to the librarian: Mr Phillip B. Evans, Fronhaul, Stepaside, Mochdre, Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Powys, SY16 4JJ

Searches on computer

Please note that, generally speaking, it is far easier to access the computerised holdings, detailed below, than the paper deposits in the library.  We now hold over three quarters of a million varied records relating to Montgomeryshire individuals on computer.

Baptisms, marriages and burials

We are able to search extensive databases of Montgomeryshire parish and nonconformist baptism, marriage and burial registers.  There is no charge to members.

Apply to the librarian, as above.

Census searches

Whilst we have published the 1841, 1891 and 1901 censuses of the county, searches may be requested in the relevant databases.  There is no charge to members.

Apply to the librarian, as above.

Civil Registration: Local Registrars' Indexes

The Local Registrars' Indexes database, which covers the whole county, contains about 382,000 records.  This is a composite index of the indexes to the registers of births, marriages and deaths maintained by the local registrars in Montgomeryshire between 1837 and about 1950.  Compiled by MGS members in conjunction with Gwynedd and Clwyd Family History Societies.  Also searchable online via North Wales BMD.  For a link to the North Wales BMD website, please see the Links page.

Apply to the librarian, as above.

Memorial inscriptions database

Includes all inscriptions in the Society's publications and thousands of others.  This database includes over 38,500 memorials, amounting to about 100,000 individuals.  There is no charge to members for searches.

Apply to: Mr David Petley-Jones, Four Winds, 1 Belvidere Walk, Shrewsbury, SY2 5LT

London Research

Limited research in all London record offices is also available at a general search fee of £2.50 per half hour or part thereof.

Apply to: Mr Stephen W. Jones, Juniper Villa, 77 Eskdale Avenue, Chesham, Buckinghamshire, HP5 3AY

Other services

Also available to members are limited Welsh/English translation, strays searches and searches in the Shrewsbury burgess rolls.

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